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  Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead

  by Whynot in

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  paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.

  native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.

  so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.

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  joey jojo

  I have never replied to a thread on this subject, I don't usually even read them.

  I just want to ask a genuine, respectful question. Have any of you guys that believe you have experienced paranormal activity ever taken psycho-active drugs- either medically or recreationally?

  Also, amazing claims require equally compelling evidence to back them up. Wozza, you mention being able to manipulate objects and turn on lights like its a bodily function. Do you have any evidence of this?

  For almost 100 yrs, various sceptic organisations around the world have offered hundreds of thousands of dollars to anyone that can demonstrate paranormal activity under controlled conditions. Have any of you guys cashed in yet? If not, why not?

  I am not calling anyone here a fake. I am very much aware that its possible there are mysteries in the universe we don't fully understand yet. Its just that the 'evidence' I've seen about this stuff is like the 'evidence' for bigfoot, or UFO's- it always seems to be a bit blurry.
  
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  Active witnesses? Please help?

  by Ahava in

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  hi,i'm lost and a little sad.

  i actually like the jw faith.

  some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.

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  12 june 2018 what to say

  by LostAdam in

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  hi eveyone, my sis told me something like where will i be after that day.

  i couldnt realize at first what she meant, but i found this on net donald-trump-kim-jong-un-meeting-singapore-june-12/.

  i found her reaction so pathetic, but i think she is really sorry for me leaving.. so how to do you reply to jw family or generally when news about world peace comes out?.

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  joey jojo

  Hi LostAdam,

  My super-dub friend also sent me this with along with the caption : 'are you ready'?

  I reminded him that 1986 was designated the 'year of peace'. If that was not a worldwide proclamation, then what is?

  The prophecy about peace and security is so vague that it would take a brave person- or maybe a group of 8 people to perceive when it happens.

  World leaders literally talk about peace all the time.
  
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  Active witnesses? Please help?

  by Ahava in

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  hi,i'm lost and a little sad.

  i actually like the jw faith.

  some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.

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  Seeking info - murder suicide in WA Australia - were they Witnesses?

  by iwasblind in

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  2. scandals

  hey guys.

  a grandfather murdered his wife, daughter and 4 grandkids.. the father says his kids are in a "new system" and says his god is "jehovah".

  the grandparents lived on a farm and called it their "foreever farm".

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  joey jojo

  Have reasonably good info that the dad was raised a JW but never baptised. He used to take the kids to meetings. Don't know the details of the marriage break-up but I believe the ex-wife and her parents were NOT JW's.
  
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  Pre 2000 magazines now on JW Org- have there been alterations to the originals?

  by joey jojo in

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  just wanted to ask if anyone has found any glaring changes to the pre- 2000 wt or awake articles that have been put online compared to the original issues?.

  cheers.

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  joey jojo

  Thanks for the replies. :)

  I did a little bit of digging myself although I don't own any original bound volumes anymore.

  I started with this website and looked for anything relating to 'generation' that has been posted and commented on using pre 2000 WT as a reference.

  It looked to me like the originals had not been altered (yet) regarding this particular topic. But it was a small sample size as I only referenced a handful of articles on the topic.

  Like the Reasoning book, which is still available on JW org, the pre 2000 WT's that I researched, notably, the 1984 WT - the generation that will not pass away', still maintain that 'the generation' are the group of people alive in 1914 that will not pass away before Armageddon.

  So, officially, as of this date, the org is promoting 2 different doctrines on the same subject. I don't really think any reasonable person would call that being 'faithful', or 'discreet'.
  
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  Pre 2000 magazines now on JW Org- have there been alterations to the originals?

  by joey jojo in

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  just wanted to ask if anyone has found any glaring changes to the pre- 2000 wt or awake articles that have been put online compared to the original issues?.

  cheers.

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  joey jojo

  Just wanted to ask if anyone has found any glaring changes to the pre- 2000 WT or awake articles that have been put online compared to the original issues?

  Cheers
  
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  Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

  by SecondRateMind in

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  i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

  apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

  luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

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  joey jojo

  I'm at work so I haven't been able to read every reply. I'm sure that what I believe has probably already been said but here goes anyway.

  Wealth is relative.

  What is ' too much wealth'?

  I agree with many that have said that giving money to ' poor ' people will solve nothing because if it did work there should be no poverty in any first world country with a social security network.

  Wealth is a mindset.

  The reason many are poorer than they should be is because they buy themselves luxuries first and try to save or invest second. Many spend way too much on takeaway meals, smoking, drinking,drugs, gambling, clothes - you name it. Try telling a rich guy that became rich by working 100 hours a week for 20 yrs and didn't waste his money on instant gratification that he should give most of his wealth away to a family that eats at mcdonalds most nights because mum is too lazy to cook.

  Your post is a good one that proposes a problem that seems to have a very simple solution, but in reality, is a complex issue.

  I should add that most first world countries already donate hundreds of millions of dollars to less fortunate countries every year.

  I could go on but I have to keep working now :).
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  JW's are slaves- but not in a good way

  by joey jojo in

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  i was reading about the american slave trade again recently.

  as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.

  every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.

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  stuckinarut2 a day ago

  What makes it even worse, is that JWs have been conditioned to actually think it is a GOOD thing to be a "slave" to the "truth"!

  Exactly the point I was trying to make.

  4. 'Teach servants to take interest in their master's enterprise.'

  I find this comment pretty disturbing. It has connotations of a lowly slave, whose only pleasure in life is making his master happy. It is a fitting comparison to the way the average Dub is treated. Jw's are pretty much conditioned to accept that making their 'masters' happy (witnessing, meetings) is the ONLY way they can achieve true happiness.
  
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  JW's are slaves- but not in a good way

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading about the american slave trade again recently.

  as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.

  every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.

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  joey jojo

  I was reading about the American slave trade again recently. As anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading. Every time I read the history, I'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.

  I came across an unsettling quote from a publication written in 1850 which described how slave owners can produce and maintain the 'ideal slave'.

  1. Maintain strict discipline and unconditional submission.
  2. Create a sense of personal inferiority, so that slaves "know their place."
  3. Instill fear.
  4. Teach servants to take interest in their master's enterprise.
  5. Deprive access to education and recreation, to ensure that slaves remain uneducated, helpless, and dependent.

  Sound familiar?